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Three Australian alum now leading Jakarta’s lifestyle industry share their thoughts on creating their own hype, staying authentic and thriving in this glitzy but cutthroat world, as Indra Mawira Agnes Ansari and Noorsetyo Utomo talk to The Katalis Podcast.

The Katalis Podcast is produced by Katalis, a unique, government-backed business development program that unlocks the vast potential of economic partnership between Australia and Indonesia. Established under the Indonesia-Australia Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement, the Katalis Economic Cooperation Program complements existing Australian development program activities with a commercially oriented, bilateral approach, with a strong focus on gender equality and social inclusion.